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A woman is whining because her daughter's husband has taken her children away from her, and is requesting people to please help her.

I pointed out that TENS OF MILLIONS of MEN have had their children kidnapped by women, and the women REFUSED to help the men. So why should we help you women? And the reaction? The usual male-shaming language and man-hating feminist bullshit. How surprising.

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Desperately in need of Justice !! A young mother's unhappy story....

 

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Desperately in need of Justice !! A young mother's unhappy story....

I don't know what to do. I wrote this letter and I seriously want to publish it and show the world what kind of unfeeling, insensitive assholes are actually allowed to exist in this sad world. Am I pissed ? YOU BETCHA !!

I've posted the letter here, and I've taken out the real names.... I didn't want to, but I thought I'd better get some advice as to what to do to try to help my daughter who can't afford any more attorneys. I am sooooo worried about her !! She's had to endure far too much and I think she may be at her breaking point - she says she wants to give up... and that's not like her at all.

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February 4, 2013

To whom it may concern:

I’m a mother, and I’m at a loss as to how to help my 26 year old daughter, who is about to have a total emotional breakdown. She has been battling the court system in Portsmouth, Ohio for the last four years, and it seems that all options are stacked against her. She is close to financial ruin, trying to fight the corruption there, and the one attorney she had, that she trusted, became a judge and had to withdraw from her case.

Her name is Mother Christina Good, and she is the mother of Child Can’t Name, who just turned five years old on Can't Say. 

There were two very important things in Mother’s life that she wanted to achieve; to be a MOTHER, and to be a doctor. From the time she was old enough to walk, and clear up until she was about twelve years old, she would NEVER go to bed at night, without first “tucking in” her six or seven dolls – each one having its own bed. It was at that point that I knew she was born to be a wonderful mother.

Mother is no stranger to life’s ugly challenges. Her father died when she was only six years old, and I raised her alone, as best I could. From the time she was ten, she talked about becoming a doctor, and when she was eighteen she became an EMT. Mother worked a full-time job and also volunteered on numerous area fire departments as an EMT. 

Three years later, she enrolled herself into the Grant Medical Center’s Paramedic Program and graduated at the top of her class. During her course of study at Grant, she worked full-time in order to pay her own way through school. Somehow, she also found time to volunteer, also. I would have helped her financially, but I was barely surviving myself, while raising her younger brother. 

After the big earthquake in Haiti, Mother volunteered to help, and spent a week with the victims in that country. She’s always ready to help if needed. She teaches Sunday School and sings in the church’s musical program. Mother and her husband, Dude Good also coach Child Can’t Name’s soccer team.

I’ve always been so proud of her for being so self-sufficient and holding fast to her dreams. She’s always been the kind of person who sets her goals, and then follows through; no matter what. But today, I’m afraid she has reached her emotional and financial limit.

Mother’s Story: (it’s a long story for such a short life)
In 2007 Mother Original met the love of her life (or so she thought), Retard Can’t Name. Retard was attending Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio. After several months of their relationship, Mother became pregnant. At this time, Retard begged Mother to get an abortion. She called me, in tears, and told me what was happening. She knew that I wouldn’t be happy about the situation, but neither one of us believe in abortion. She wanted me to talk to Retard, and get him to change his mind about ending her pregnancy – she was determined to keep her baby no matter what. I told her to go to the library and get the video “The Silent Scream” and make him watch it. They eventually married, and Child came into the world – a wonderful, smart, loving little boy !!

Retard and Mother lived in the basement of Retard’s parents’ home, on the outskirts of Portsmouth, Ohio. 

Retard never paid rent or contributed any financial support to the household, but Mother continued to work as long as she could (while being pregnant) and helped out with utilities and food, without being asked. That’s because I raised her to be RESPONSIBLE. Retard worked sporadically at part-time jobs.

After Child was born, there was some contention between Mother and Retard’s mother, Witch, because Witch would continually refer to herself as “Mommy” when holding or playing with Child. Mother asked Witch more than once, not to do that – it’s a “mother” thing, I guess ?” Mother finally decided that she and Retard should find a house to rent, and “build their own nest”. Retard’s mother was NOT happy about that decision and tried to influence her son not to do it. Mother, being the strong personality that she is, put her foot down. Needless to say, they moved into a little house in Ghetto, Ohio – about 10 miles away from Retard’s parents’ home.

On their first anniversary, Retard gave Mother a beautiful card, and wrote in the card, that she was the “love of his life, and he couldn’t imagine his life without her…”. They had never had an argument at that point.

One night in 2008, Mother discovered Retard sitting on the floor, in the mudroom, in the dark, holding a butcher knife. Not knowing or understanding what was wrong, she was very upset – knowing that this was NOT normal behavior, and being positive that Retard was NOT intoxicated or on drugs. The next day, she told Retard that she needed to take Child and go to my house, in Hometown, Ohio for a couple of days, and that he should try and get some help for whatever it was that was wrong with him. This incident had really frightened her. First, he agreed, and then decided that SHE could go, but he wasn’t going to let her bring Child to see me. This started their first argument. 

Mother had packed up the car and was ready to go, when Retard changed his mind. They were outside their home, and Retard was in the middle of the street yelling and shaking 8 month old Child, in a rage. Mother called me in hysterics, and I flat out told her to call the Police to come and settle him down, before Child got injured.
The Police came, Retard called his parents and they came too. I believe that this was the beginning of the end of Mother’s and Retard’s marriage. 

Mother spent two days at my home in Hometown, and I explained to her how important it was for her to try and “fix” whatever was wrong in her relationship… maybe counseling. She returned to Portsmouth and she and her husband resumed what seemed to be a normal routine…. That is, until a short time later. 

One seemingly normal morning, Retard told Mother that he was going to take Child to see his Grandmother. He took the baby and left – but he never returned. Mother called, and got no answer. She finally went to her in-laws’ house and was told that she needed to leave or they would have her arrested for trespassing. She went to the Police, and they told her to go to the Sheriff; she went to the Sheriff and they told her she would have to go through the courts. She went to the court and they helped her with some paperwork and filed it. It was a lot of running around, filling out forms, spending time that got her absolutely nowhere when it came to getting her son back. 

The very worst part of this entire situation, is that Mother had NO idea WHY Retard had walked out of their marriage and taken her son – and she wasn’t allowed to see him. Law enforcement said they couldn’t help because it was a domestic thing and no divorce was filed, so Retard was within his rights. WHAT ???!!!! At that point we requested a “Welfare Check” on Child, to make sure he was OK. The Sheriff informed us that he went there, and everything seemed to be fine.

Mother finally got some sound advice from another paramedic that she knew. This paramedic’s husband just happened to be a Deputy Sheriff, and he said to tell Mother, that if she could “get her hands on her son” that NOBODY would be allowed to touch her, or they could be arrested. Hmmmmm…….
I went to Portsmouth to be with Mother– terribly worried about her state of mind during this awful ordeal. I listened intently as she laid out the plan she had devised…. This was three weeks into her personal “HELL”.

Now you have to understand, that I am TOTALLY non-confrontational, and this plan of hers scared the daylights out of me, just thinking about it !

Retard had taken the car with the car seat for the baby. Mother was left with the little truck and NO car seat. We went shopping and bought a car seat. The next thing we had to do was find a way into the Can’t Name home, in order to see Child, and hopefully “grab” him. At which point, we were going to call the Sheriff to come and escort us out – with baby Child.

I called JoAnn Can’t Name and explained that I was in Portsmouth, and I really wanted to see my grandson. After a lot of begging, the Can’t Name’s finally agreed to let Mother and I see Child. We installed the new car seat, loaded the truck with blankets, a bottle, a pacifier… you name it. We were on our way.

Once we arrived at the Can’t Name home, we were surprised to see the entire extended family there. It was like walking into a military encampment. Child was so happy to see his Mama. Witch Can’t Name wouldn’t let Mother hold him. She stood there holding my grandson, like he was a piece of HER property. 

I told Witch that I wanted to play with Child and she finally put him down on the floor. Of course he made a bee-line for his Mama… crawling across the living room floor at break-neck speed. It was too cute. At this point, Mother was in tears, and wasted NO time scooping up her son that she hadn’t been able to see or hold for over a month. 

Immediately, the whole family was on their feet and formed a circle around my daughter, in a threatening way. Mother told them, that the first person to lay a hand on her would go to jail. 

Warlock Can’t Name, Retard’s father said, “I’m calling the Sheriff !”

“I wish you would, and make it fast !” Mother replied, without batting an eye, because she had verified her rights before attempting this extreme retrieval.
Needless to say, the entire Can’t Name clan was speechless, not understanding what Mother was doing, because they obviously didn’t know the law.

The Sheriff finally arrived to find Mother surrounded by this family, as if she were being “fenced in”. While I cowered in a corner… scared to death, to say the least. When the Sheriff explained the law to the Can’t Names, they were “dumb-founded”, unable to believe that they had lost the “upper hand”.

The Sheriff escorted Mother, Child, and I out to the truck and waved us to go. Mother and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. We weren’t on the road five minutes when we saw the flashing red lights behind us, and we pulled over. The Sheriff approached the truck and shined his big flashlight inside.

“They told me that you didn’t have a car seat for the baby,” the Sheriff chuckled, seeing little Child secured in his new car seat, bundled up in a warm blanket, and enjoying his pacifier. Just proves that it always helps to THINK AHEAD. We were almost home free !!
The battle had just begun.

A woman at the courthouse, I believe she was called “a mother’s advocate” had Mother file an Ex Parte order for emergency custody and a restraining order against Retard Can’t Name and his family. It all seems so blurred now.
One day, shortly after we had gotten little Child back home, Witch Can’t Name called me and begged me to get Mother to drop the Domestic Violence charges against her son. She told me that all he ever wanted to be, his entire life, was a teacher…. Like her and her husband. She told me that if he had Domestic Violence on his record that he would never be able to teach. I reminded her that all Mother ever wanted to be was a good MOTHER. That conversation ended quickly.

The Can’t Name family wasted NO time filing divorce papers against my daughter – who still had no idea why her husband walked out, or why he wanted a divorce – “irreconcilable differences” means WHAT ? He never explained it…. not even to this day.

The Domestic Violence charges were dismissed by the court – even though Mother produced the Police Report to prove it… they called her a liar. She ended up paying child support, and the court ordered a Shared Parenting Plan.
Over some time, my daughter adjusted to her new life. Her career flourished, and she was in demand as one of the best paramedics in the area. In 2010 she met and married Dude Good, an ex-Air Force man, who worked as a surgical assistant at OSU Medical Center in Columbus, Ohio. They seemed destined for each other. Mother was working in Kentucky at the time, and spending a lot of time commuting back and forth. After a year or so of this, they decided that it might be a better idea for her to live closer to her work, and Dude was willing to change jobs in order for her to do that. 

In June of 2011, Mother filed the intention to relocate, with the court and the child support office. When she informed her ex-husband, Retard, he was furious. At this time, he was having his visitation time with Child, who was now going on four years old. When Mother went to pick up her son, Retard and Child were NOT at the pickup point. Mother called and got no answer. It was like Déjà vu – it was happening AGAIN !!

Mother went to the Police, she went to the Sheriff, she gathered police reports. She continued to go to pick up her son every week at her appointed time, but he was never there, and neither was Retard Can’t Name. She filed contempt charges every week, and attached the current Police reports. Every time there was a hearing scheduled, the Can’t Name family attorney found a way around it – by continuance or whatever. 

During this #2 ordeal, Mother was beside herself, with grief and fear. She had lost faith in attorneys, as she had spent a fortune trying to get the law enforced, with NO success. How does a father abduct a child, willfully disregarding a Court ordered Shared Parenting Plan, not allowing a mother to see her child or even speak with him on the phone for SIX months ??!!!! Where is the justice ? Are laws meaningless – are some laws just not important enough to be enforced ? How can this happen – and the courts totally ignore it ?

After I spent some time emailing and “shaming” the Can’t Name family for what they were doing – not only to the detriment of my daughter, but to my grandson as well, they finally allowed my daughter to speak to her son on the phone once a week. Poor little Child would cry and ask Mother when she was coming to pick him up for “Mommy Time”… and didn’t she love him anymore? It was absolutely heart breaking!! And these people are TEACHERS in our public schools ??? Aren’t they supposed to know “something” about child psychology ? ! And since little Child was staying at the Can’t Name home while Retard worked (graduated and a teacher by this time), doesn’t it make Retard Can’t Name’s parents complicit in Parental Interference / Parental Abduction ? Do they really believe they are above the law ? Where is the LAW ENFORCEMENT in Scioto County, Ohio ?
I actually went to Portsmouth one weekend, to try and find Child. While Mother was at work in Kentucky, her husband Dude and I went to the Can’t Name home. I had a feeling that Child was there and I was right. I knocked at the door, and guess who I saw !! Obviously Witch Can’t Name didn’t recognize me, and she had never seen Dude Good, so she opened the door. Little Child ran up and peered through the opening, only to be snatched away quickly by unknown hands.

I told Witch that what she was doing was wrong and if she didn’t condemn it, then she most certainly was condoning it. I told her that I wanted to see my grandson; to talk to him; to give him a hug. 

She said, “I can’t let you do that, because the last time, you ran off with him.” Hmmmmm……

If that’s not an admission to complicity, I don’t know what is !!!!

Mother eventually found an attorney that she respected and trusted, after seemingly wasting money on a couple of attorneys that didn’t actually help her at all. It seemed that she was finally going to end this “nightmare”. Retard finally agreed, at the advice of his attorney, to resume the original parenting visitation schedule. Well DUH !!!! This happened in November of 2011, after being separated from her son since June.

Still, nothing was happening with the contempt charges that had been filed against Retard Can’t Name. And to make matters worse, just a short time before a hearing was to take place, the attorney that Mother depended on, had to abandon her case because he ran for Judge and won. Now she was on her own and virtually broke. 

In the meantime, Mother and Dude were the proud parents of another baby. A son named Baby2.

Today Baby2 is 8 months old, and Child loves his little brother to pieces !! Child also has a little sister, born two weeks after Baby2, at his daddy’s house. Life certainly does continue !!

Today my daughter went to court for what she thought was FINALLY the hearing for the contempt charges against Retard Can’t Name. Instead, when she got there (totally prepared to do it Pro Se), she found out that SHE was in contempt for missing child support payments during the last couple of weeks of her pregnancy, and during her recovery period after the C-section she had to have. 

Retard’s contempt charges weren’t even mentioned, and the “visiting Judge” ORDERED my daughter to get an attorney or she was going to jail. Now I’m not sure that is legal, if it IS, in fact, what was said ??? I wasn’t there, and Mother was absolutely hysterical on the telephone when she was trying to tell me what happened. Supposedly she didn’t respond to the contempt charge against her… that she was supposed to have received by mail. She swears that she didn’t receive ANYTHING. I know that certified mail has to be “signed” for, and she says that NOTHING ever came by certified mail or otherwise. I have NO idea what’s going on, except that my daughter is on the brink of giving up on life. She’s been through too much for too long.

I’m a widow on disability, and I have no way to help her financially. I know that this is exactly what the Can’t Name family has been hoping for – to totally break her spirit. 

Even if I can’t help financially, by God… I will fight emotionally, and I will fight with all the strength and with all the will that I can muster – I will use every legal weapon available to me, including my First Amendment Rights.

I need YOUR help !! 

I’m asking for your help in fighting for the justice that my daughter has so long deserved !! She’s NOT the criminal. She followed the Court Ordered Parenting Plan to the letter…. Retard Can’t Name (with his parents’ help) chose to willfully disregard the law and emotionally abuse my grandson, while trying to destroy my daughter.

Please !! We need advice and help in this matter. If you have anything to offer, please let me know ASAP.
I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Sincerely,
Mom Original, Mother Good’s mother

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein

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Just to show you how serious the crime of Parental Abduction is - here's the definition from a Government Study:


Definition of Parental Abduction

Parental abduction is defined as "the taking, retention, or concealment of a child or children by a parent, other family member, or their agent, in derogation of the custody rights, including visitation rights, of another parent or family member" (Girdner, 1994b, p. 1–11). Abductors may be other family members or their agents (e.g., girlfriend, boyfriend, grandparent, or even a private investigator), although in most cases the abductor is a child’s parent (Girdner, 1994c). Some State criminal statutes use the term "custodial interference"—rather than parental abduction, family abduction, or kidnapping—when referring to this crime and may include incidents in which children are detained or enticed away from the custodial parent. Custodial interference can also be defined to include interference with a court order of visitation or access.
Parental abduction is a crime in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.


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I was sooooo hoping that someone would tell me what might happen to me if I post this letter with the real names in it, on my blog or publish it in a newspaper.

I just want some help for my daughter.

I'm so worried about her. I don't know how she's managed to handle this for so long - she's sure made out of stronger stuff than I am. But I think she's hit her limit.

PLEASE.... any advice or suggestions that might help her ?

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I wish I could pin.

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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tell your daughter to send her son certified letters and cards on a regular basis so the courts see that she never stopped attempting to make contact.

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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I wish I could pin.

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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Pinned it for you, OP. It could have been me, years back. My ex threatened to do the same thing. I hope it works out well for you. My experience with Ottawa Co. in Ohio wasn't much better, 30 years ago.

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tell your daughter to send her son certified letters and cards on a regular basis so the courts see that she never stopped attempting to make contact.

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She got her son back in November, after six months of awful, awful worry and tears.

She is afraid that the father is actually going to get full custody instead of shared parenting.... and he's the one who has MULTIPLE contempt charges filed against him for breaking the terms of the Parenting Agreement and Parental Abduction - but the courts aren't doing a thing about that !!

She gets her son for 3-4 days a week, but he'll start school this coming fall, and the court will have to make one parent or the other the "residential parent" or else award sole custody - how can they give sole custody to a CRIMINAL ?????

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Look and see if you can find a family resource center in your area. These should be free and should have a 'parent advocate'. Also, your local YWCA should have a domestic violence advocate that could help.

Unfortunately, in the court, it is often who you know. HAving these advocates in the courtroom with your daughter lend her credibility- that she is trying to heal and improve parenting skills,etc.

As far as posting the letter with real names, I would advise against posting the names of the other family. They could sue for defamation, but, would have to prove it. The stress of another lawsuit should be a huge deterrent.

Also, on a personal note- I would suggest making the letter far shorter and sticking to facts. You are emotionally involved and that is evident, but, facts are what ultimately matter in these cases. For example, how many days the child was without contact with his mother and the fact that it was in direct violation of an existing court order is far more important than the birth of the other 2 babies (which have nothing to do with case)

Best wishes. I am in Wisconsin. If I was in your state, I would offer to help. LEt me know if you need additional basic info.

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tell your daughter to send her son certified letters and cards on a regular basis so the courts see that she never stopped attempting to make contact.

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Exactly. great point. She should be documenting EVERY attempted contact- who, what time, what was said, etc. These records can be very important in proving her dedication to being a mom.

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Pinned it for you, OP. It could have been me, years back. My ex threatened to do the same thing. I hope it works out well for you. My experience with Ottawa Co. in Ohio wasn't much better, 30 years ago.

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Thank you so much !!

I'm thinking that I'll make flyers, set up a bank account and call it "xxx Defense Fund" and try to get the news stations in the area to cover the story.

I don't know.... she lost the only good attorney she had, after firing 2. Now she can't afford to pay another one. If I can get a campaign going... maybe we could get one of the BEST ???? After all.... Clinton took donations for HIS defense fund. LOL

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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WHo knows why people do evil things. Any grandmother that would deny a child access to their child must have a dark evil heart. I've seen it so many times it sickens me. My prayers are with you, your daughter, and the poor child.

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It seems that what you are really dealing with is corruption.
You would have to be extremely rich to win at that.
I went through something similar. The only thing that worked was prayer. 
Believe it or not, I got hired at a job where the
owner was close friends with the head of Family Court.
God can do things that no amount of money can.
Your daughter should also seek professional support/counseling. 
It will help her keep her present family intact. 
There are even some who also work with the courts.
do some research, there are still ethical people out there
but do your homework

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Pinned it for you, OP. It could have been me, years back. My ex threatened to do the same thing. I hope it works out well for you. My experience with Ottawa Co. in Ohio wasn't much better, 30 years ago.

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Thank you so much !!

I'm thinking that I'll make flyers, set up a bank account and call it "xxx Defense Fund" and try to get the news stations in the area to cover the story.

I don't know.... she lost the only good attorney she had, after firing 2. Now she can't afford to pay another one. If I can get a campaign going... maybe we could get one of the BEST ???? After all.... Clinton took donations for HIS defense fund. LOL

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Look and see if you can find a family resource center in your area. These should be free and should have a 'parent advocate'. Also, your local YWCA should have a domestic violence advocate that could help.

Unfortunately, in the court, it is often who you know. HAving these advocates in the courtroom with your daughter lend her credibility- that she is trying to heal and improve parenting skills,etc.

As far as posting the letter with real names, I would advise against posting the names of the other family. They could sue for defamation, but, would have to prove it. The stress of another lawsuit should be a huge deterrent.

Also, on a personal note- I would suggest making the letter far shorter and sticking to facts. You are emotionally involved and that is evident, but, facts are what ultimately matter in these cases. For example, how many days the child was without contact with his mother and the fact that it was in direct violation of an existing court order is far more important than the birth of the other 2 babies (which have nothing to do with case)

Best wishes. I am in Wisconsin. If I was in your state, I would offer to help. LEt me know if you need additional basic info.

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You're absolutely right. I just had to VENT. I feel helpless, and my daughter feels like everything is HOPELESS. I just refuse to let these people get away with this kind of horrible stuff. They're not only hurting my daughter.... they're hurting my grandson !!! You'd think they'd know better !! They're school teachers for God's sake !!

It's hard not to let my emotions get in the way... good thing I wasn't in court with my daughter. OMG !!!

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Geezuz.

Learn to summarize.

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tell your daughter to send her son certified letters and cards on a regular basis so the courts see that she never stopped attempting to make contact.

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Exactly. great point. She should be documenting EVERY attempted contact- who, what time, what was said, etc. These records can be very important in proving her dedication to being a mom.

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Yep... she did exactly that, through the whole ordeal of being kept away from her son.

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It seems that what you are really dealing with is corruption.
You would have to be extremely rich to win at that.
I went through something similar. The only thing that worked was prayer. 
Believe it or not, I got hired at a job where the
owner was close friends with the head of Family Court.
God can do things that no amount of money can.
Your daughter should also seek professional support/counseling. 
It will help her keep her present family intact. 
There are even some who also work with the courts.
do some research, there are still ethical people out there
but do your homework

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We are praying fools. LOL I'm just afraid that this thing is going to take away her faith. I consider her a "baby Christian".

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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WHo knows why people do evil things. Any grandmother that would deny a child access to their child must have a dark evil heart. I've seen it so many times it sickens me. My prayers are with you, your daughter, and the poor child.

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It seems that what you are really dealing with is corruption.
You would have to be extremely rich to win at that.
I went through something similar. The only thing that worked was prayer. 
Believe it or not, I got hired at a job where the
owner was close friends with the head of Family Court.
God can do things that no amount of money can.
Your daughter should also seek professional support/counseling. 
It will help her keep her present family intact. 
There are even some who also work with the courts.
do some research, there are still ethical people out there
but do your homework

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Absolutely NO doubt in my mind that we are dealing with corruption and "pay-offs". This is just soooooo unfair.

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OMG !! Check this out:

CORRUPTION IN NORTH CAROLINA COURT IS MINOR COMPARED TO CORRUPTION IN SCIOTO COUNTY OHIO COURTS! 

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He/she who has the most money in domestic court, wins. That is why the ability to represent yourself is critical, assuming one has the brains to do the forms correctly, speak coherently, etc. Even then, judges hate pro se cases and while he was off base saying he'd hold her in contempt if she didn't get an attorney, bottom-line is if judge hates pro se and she insists on asserting her rights to self-represent, he will simply rule against her in everything. If no money to get a lawyer, I'm sorry to say it's game over. Retard wins. 

I went through this when I was very young. All on my own, parents halfway across the country with no money to help me. Me, facing my own retard and his family with the money and roots. I could not win, I didn't have the resources to do anything about it. I walked away. There was no other viable option. And I was seriously fucked up for several years before I forgave myself for doing so, with self-destructive behavior and more follies as a result until I pulled it together. 

Tough road, but inevitable for her.

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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Consider some of these ideas...

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He/she who has the most money in domestic court, wins. That is why the ability to represent yourself is critical, assuming one has the brains to do the forms correctly, speak coherently, etc. Even then, judges hate pro se cases and while he was off base saying he'd hold her in contempt if she didn't get an attorney, bottom-line is if judge hates pro se and she insists on asserting her rights to self-represent, he will simply rule against her in everything. If no money to get a lawyer, I'm sorry to say it's game over. Retard wins.

I went through this when I was very young. All on my own, parents halfway across the country with no money to help me. Me, facing my own retard and his family with the money and roots. I could not win, I didn't have the resources to do anything about it. I walked away. There was no other viable option. And I was seriously fucked up for several years before I forgave myself for doing so, with self-destructive behavior and more follies as a result until I pulled it together. 

Tough road, but inevitable for her.

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That's what my daughter is saying - that she can't win and she has to just give up for her own preservation and that of her new husband and baby. Her present husband is a jewel, by the way. Even my grandson calls him "Dad" which surprised us all when he just, out of nowhere, started doing that. He calls his biological father "Daddy".. so there's the difference. LOL

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both parties are wrong and because of their own selfish desires. a kid pays the tab.

if this is the worst she has been though, she has had a great life.


hope things work out for the child, the adults are washed up, both of them. leaving on her part was the first mistake or trying to. life makes perfect sence to those doing what's best for others...

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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Consider some of these ideas...

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My grandson is enjoying his normal visitation with his mother and his father at this point. I did write letters during the ordeal, when my son-in-law was hiding my grandson. The letters did nothing, as far as I know ???

What is WSAZ ???

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crazy world we live in

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both parties are wrong and because of their own selfish desires. a kid pays the tab.

if this is the worst she has been though, she has had a great life.


hope things work out for the child, the adults are washed up, both of them. leaving on her part was the first mistake or trying to. life makes perfect sence to those doing what's best for others...

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My daughter never left her husband... he walked out on HER.

The time that he scared her with the butcher knife, she only wanted to come stay with me for a couple of days while he got his shit together.... she was really frightened, but didn't intend to end her marriage.

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I am not certain how you can apply this knowledge into your case. 

But you should really know who is who in front of court.



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Are you standing in front of the judge as a natural person or a corporation????

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[link to musicians4freedom.com

This pretty much tells it all.

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Never underestimate blackmail. 

I got custody of my kids using it ... it's a time honored method of issue resolution.

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[link to musicians4freedom.com

This pretty much tells it all.

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Thanks I needed that. Very interesting !!

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Never underestimate blackmail. 

I got custody of my kids using it ... it's a time honored method of issue resolution.

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Tell me more.... LOL

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whatever you do, don't do anything that would make your
daughter or yourself look wacky. that is exactly what they want. 
Try to think outside the box, creatively, its really hard to do that when you see the one's you love suffering.
Tell your daughter to get on B complex supplements. 
they are very important in times of stress. 
She should also read up on what other supplements would help.
When you are under prolonged stress like that it literally effects your ability
to think clearly.

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whatever you do, don't do anything that would make your
daughter or yourself look wacky. that is exactly what they want. 
Try to think outside the box, creatively, its really hard to do that when you see the one's you love suffering.
Tell your daughter to get on B complex supplements. 
they are very important in times of stress. 
She should also read up on what other supplements would help.
When you are under prolonged stress like that it literally effects your ability
to think clearly.

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Thank you... I'll pass that along to her.

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On a cold and gray US mornin'
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that's another hungry mouth to feed
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On a cold and gray US mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
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'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
that's another hungry mouth to feed
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Thank you Elvis. LOL but isn't that soooo TRUE ??? Description: hf

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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Consider some of these ideas...

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No, don't consider those ideas. Those are actions that the Retard will use against your daughter if you do these things. 

I'm a family law attorney. If I was his attorney, I would use these things against your daughter to show why retard should have custody.

Typically, I see the type of case where the mom goes to court to get a restraining order and by the time dad gets his hearing and proves the grounds for a restraining order were a lie, the mom has already had custody for a while and will most likely end up with the house and the kids primarily. 

Then there's the rarer type of case where dad doesn't want to pay child support, so he makes up a lot of stuff and plays games in order to get custody. 

Here's the problem. I don't see any "conspiracy" or "government corruption." This is a rare type of case where the dad is aggressive, and has an aggressive attorney, and mom has no attorney or a bad one. 

If your daughter plays the game, she looks just as bad. If you or your daughter take any of the actions above, you look bad to the court. 

She needs to get an attorney. I don't think she's handling the case correctly. I would have handled it differently so far. 

She should find a family law specialist in her area and get some help before she loses custody. I know that so far the dad is the problem, but she is taking steps that could backfire. I've seen a mom lose custody to the child-molesting father because of the actions the mom took. She wasn't represented, either.

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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Consider some of these ideas...

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No, don't consider those ideas. Those are actions that the Retard will use against your daughter if you do these things. 

I'm a family law attorney. If I was his attorney, I would use these things against your daughter to show why retard should have custody.

Typically, I see the type of case where the mom goes to court to get a restraining order and by the time dad gets his hearing and proves the grounds for a restraining order were a lie, the mom has already had custody for a while and will most likely end up with the house and the kids primarily. 

Then there's the rarer type of case where dad doesn't want to pay child support, so he makes up a lot of stuff and plays games in order to get custody. 

Here's the problem. I don't see any "conspiracy" or "government corruption." This is a rare type of case where the dad is aggressive, and has an aggressive attorney, and mom has no attorney or a bad one. 

If your daughter plays the game, she looks just as bad. If you or your daughter take any of the actions above, you look bad to the court. 

She needs to get an attorney. I don't think she's handling the case correctly. I would have handled it differently so far. 

She should find a family law specialist in her area and get some help before she loses custody. I know that so far the dad is the problem, but she is taking steps that could backfire. I've seen a mom lose custody to the child-molesting father because of the actions the mom took. She wasn't represented, either.

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You're absolutely right... but my daughter and her husband just can't afford to "feed" the machine anymore... unlike my ex-son-in-law, whose parents foot his bills, even though he has a new wife and a new baby.

All the attorneys in that court's jurisdiction are members of the "good-ole-boys" club and she's been down that road with horrible results. 

I wish she could get the case moved to a different county !!

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This is going to sound crazy, but stop all negativity toward the other family.

The anger and negativity will only rebound to you. Kill them with kindness. Forgive them. Take the "high" road and document everything.

At some point the child will know what really happened and will choose.

I wouldn't want to be the parent who kept my child from his mother.

If someone isn't doing their job protecting your daughter's rights that is fair game to make public, and I'm sure it is happening to others.'

There is power in numbers. People vote and some of the people you accuse are elected.

Don't give up, a child will never understand that.
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This is going to sound crazy, but stop all negativity toward the other family.

The anger and negativity will only rebound to you. Kill them with kindness. Forgive them. Take the "high" road and document everything.

At some point the child will know what really happened and will choose.

I wouldn't want to be the parent who kept my child from his mother.

If someone isn't doing their job protecting your daughter's rights that is fair game to make public, and I'm sure it is happening to others.'

There is power in numbers. People vote and some of the people you accuse are elected.

Don't give up, a child will never understand that.
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Blackmail can simply be a matter of if you do this I will have no choice but to do that. Simple. Not really a threat or blackmail, they are forcing her hand.

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Thank you. That is definitely good advice. Hard to forgive, but then... they don't know how upset I really am. 

I'm not sure how to do the "if you do this, then I'll have no choice but to do that" thing. I mean... I'm not sure what it is that we could demand, this late in the game ???

I'd like to say, "you sign a new shared parenting agreement listing my daughter as "residential parent", or I'll publish my letter in YOUR local newspaper" LOL

Actually, I'd like to see her get sole custody !!!

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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This is going to sound crazy, but stop all negativity toward the other family.

The anger and negativity will only rebound to you. Kill them with kindness. Forgive them. Take the "high" road and document everything.

At some point the child will know what really happened and will choose.

I wouldn't want to be the parent who kept my child from his mother.

If someone isn't doing their job protecting your daughter's rights that is fair game to make public, and I'm sure it is happening to others.'

There is power in numbers. People vote and some of the people you accuse are elected.

Don't give up, a child will never understand that.
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Blackmail can simply be a matter of if you do this I will have no choice but to do that. Simple. Not really a threat or blackmail, they are forcing her hand.

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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Thank you sooooo much !! It sounds like you know what your talking about. I will copy your post and email it to my daughter.

I know I shouldn't do this... But I'm posting a video I made (out of frustration) in August of 2011 after my grandson had been "missing" since June. It wasn't too long after I posted it, that my daughter regained her visitation privileges, even though nothing was being done about the contempt charges on the father. This is my video:


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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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Scioto County in Ohio doesn't have a public defender. They use court appointed counsel only. Shame. There are some great public defenders. 8(

Op, sorry for how you must feel. Bad enough to see your child suffer, but to worry about them and a grandchild must be overwhelming. 

The best thing would be to have her own hired attorney, but it doesn't sound like that's an option right now. Until she can do better, can she go to court and show she's indigent, or without funds to pay, and ask for court appointed counsel and also ask for a guardian ad litem for the child? 

Wishing the best for everyone, especially the little boy.

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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Scioto County in Ohio doesn't have a public defender. They use court appointed counsel only. Shame. There are some great public defenders. 8(

Op, sorry for how you must feel. Bad enough to see your child suffer, but to worry about them and a grandchild must be overwhelming. 

The best thing would be to have her own hired attorney, but it doesn't sound like that's an option right now. Until she can do better, can she go to court and show she's indigent, or without funds to pay, and for court appointed counsel and ask for a guardian ad litem for the child? 

Wishing the best for everyone, especially the little boy.

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I'm not sure if she can get the court appointed counsel. She and her husband make fairly good money, but they are WAY over extended financially.... When I was 26, I didnt' have any common sense when it came to finances either. I think this situation might teach her to budget better. I'll certainly tell her to try, though.... Thank you. Description: hf

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I am so sorry. That is truly heartbreaking. My brother went through severe custody issues in Portsmouth as well. It is all about who you know or who you can pay off. It will never be fair or make sense in Scioto county. Nothing he did ever worked. He finally got his kids back after the ex got tired of raising them. I wish I could tell you something more encouraging, but I do hope it works itself out soon.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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Thank you sooooo much !! It sounds like you know what your talking about. I will copy your post and email it to my daughter.

I know I shouldn't do this... But I'm posting a video I made (out of frustration) in August of 2011 after my grandson had been "missing" since June. It wasn't too long after I posted it, that my daughter regained her visitation privileges, even though nothing was being done about the contempt charges on the father. This is my video:


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Please do and YES.. I have been there.. in spades. The way I got through it was Spiritually. I learned the power of the connection to GOD. The real source of power. It is funny if you start to LOVE them and see them as poor fools then it comes into focus. They have NO power over Mother or you. OR ANYONE.. they are full of fear.. they can be defeated by centered, focused positive energy and wisdom. I know this is very difficult but really very simple. My kids (twins) were young but I ended up with them through Junior and Senior High. VERY important times for a child. AND moved away so that it was at a great distance. Convinced the Court.. I was the sane one and at every move countered with strength. I looked at the video and your daughter has strength. Tell her so everyday. I love the Lord's Prayer when my head hits the pillow.. every night..OUR FATHER... for YOU are the Power and the Kingdom and the Glory..for ever and ever.. Amen. 
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I'm not sure if she can get the court appointed counsel. She and her husband make fairly good money, but they are WAY over extended financially.... When I was 26, I didnt' have any common sense when it came to finances either. I think this situation might teach her to budget better. I'll certainly tell her to try, though.... Thank you. Description: hf

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It's hard to be young and a baby puts a strain on any budget.
Does your County have a Childrens Service place...not Human Services, but a place that serves children in different areas, like emotional problems, counseling, parenting classes, anywhere that has a social worker, but NOT Human Services? 

A social worker can be a good person to have on your side. A guardian ad litem could also be a benefit. If your daughter can get either one, or both, it would be great. Some counties have a place like I mentioned, with the childrens services that are paid out of county, state, and federal funds and they operate on a sliding scale for income.

UGH. So many typos. Sorry, I'm tired. Good Luck!

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And that is why you don't go and get knocked up by someone you barely know and aren't married to. When you have parents that can't make good decisions it's the child that suffers the most. Sounds like something you would see on Jerry Springer.

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It certainly seems like someone is getting "paid off" !! The father-in-law is a superintendant at one of the school districts.

I don't know WHY they want to destroy my daughter after she was so supportive of that family. I think the mother was jealous and wanted her son back? Who knows ?????

I've read so many articles about the corruption in the judicial system in Scioto County.

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You need to get on the phone for a day and call the public defender in that County. Talk to the Secretary, talk to the clerk, talk to and get names for everyone that has any experience with Domestic Law or Abuse cases of any type. If you are lucky and find someone that will open up.. plan a meeting. She needs her new husband and several friends to stand up for her in court and file a writ of habeas corpus. To see the charges that have been filed against her, and why. She has a right to do this and should be given credibility. You must tell her to calm down and get a plan. It has to be legal but she can do this. All it takes is lots of time.. get to the Court House file the papers and then wait. I know this will take a while but as you continue with discovery, document everything.. EVERYTHING. Then pray to GOD for help.. Mother should pray and get every friend around to Pray.. I will pray now.. Please dear GOD give this wonderful Mother the chance to hold and keep her wanted child in HER care and bring ruin to those that do harm to the MOTHER AND CHILD BOND. See this say this hold this to heart.. please GOD for the good of all. Make those that want to do harm to this Mother come to RUIN. Thank you Amen. So.. hopefully you will prevail..it seems bad now but time will pass and the righteous will win. Light prevails over the Dark. Try to sleep, eat well and meditate on the face of the child and send good thoughts and LOTS OF LOVE to everyone.. EVERYONE.. that is involved. IT WILL GET BETTER IF YOU CAN REMOVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND PRAY FOR LOVE. Do NOT get caught up in silly schemes to foil anyone. This will not work.. you must stand tall, proud and be level and still. You will win. You might lose at some point but PERSISTENCE will prevail.. oh and call your local paper and tell them everything. Especially the part about them circling you and acting like a pack of wolves..that is good.. kind of an evil Illuminati move if you ask me. AND get lots of pictures..visit those places the Child might be.. pose as a janitor.. do some detective work. Hey that might end up a paying job.. center, focus, act. Have a good time and just think. You will have a lot of good stories to tell down the road..remember the Child is protected by GOD.. no harm will come to him..and at some point happiness will return.. Mother is on the right road this is just a "test".

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Thank you sooooo much !! It sounds like you know what your talking about. I will copy your post and email it to my daughter.

I know I shouldn't do this... But I'm posting a video I made (out of frustration) in August of 2011 after my grandson had been "missing" since June. It wasn't too long after I posted it, that my daughter regained her visitation privileges, even though nothing was being done about the contempt charges on the father. This is my video:


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Please do and YES.. I have been there.. in spades. The way I got through it was Spiritually. I learned the power of the connection to GOD. The real source of power. It is funny if you start to LOVE them and see them as poor fools then it comes into focus. They have NO power over Mother or you. OR ANYONE.. they are full of fear.. they can be defeated by centered, focused positive energy and wisdom. I know this is very difficult but really very simple. My kids (twins) were young but I ended up with them through Junior and Senior High. VERY important times for a child. AND moved away so that it was at a great distance. Convinced the Court.. I was the sane one and at every move countered with strength. I looked at the video and your daughter has strength. Tell her so everyday. I love the Lord's Prayer when my head hits the pillow.. every night..OUR FATHER... for YOU are the Power and the Kingdom and the Glory..for ever and ever.. Amen. 
PM me if you want any other advice.

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I really like your attitude, Whitelight, but I can't pm you because I'm not a paid member. But thank you so much for sharing your experience and wisdom !!

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein

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I'm not sure if she can get the court appointed counsel. She and her husband make fairly good money, but they are WAY over extended financially.... When I was 26, I didnt' have any common sense when it came to finances either. I think this situation might teach her to budget better. I'll certainly tell her to try, though.... Thank you. Description: hf

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It's hard to be young and a baby puts a strain on any budget.
Does your County have a Childrens Service place...not Human Services, but a place that serves children in different areas, like emotional problems, counseling, parenting classes, anywhere that has a social worker, but NOT Human Services? 

A social worker can be a good person to have on your side. A guardian ad litem could also be a benefit. If your daughter can get either one, or both, it would be great. Some counties have a place like I mentioned, with the childrens services that are paid out of county, state, and federal funds and they operate on a sliding scale for income.

UGH. So many typos. Sorry, I'm tired. Good Luck!

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Thank you... I'm not sure what's available to her in HER area. I live in a different state... I'll pass the info along, though.

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And that is why you don't go and get knocked up by someone you barely know and aren't married to. When you have parents that can't make good decisions it's the child that suffers the most. Sounds like something you would see on Jerry Springer.

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Thank you for your kind words and moral support.

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And what about the TENS OF MILLIONS of American MEN who desperately need justice for the crimes that women have committed against them?

Crimes like financially destroying their husbands in divorce.
Crimes like kidnapping their husband's children from him and refusing contact/custody.
Crimes like making false domestic violence charges against her husband.
Crimes like making false rape accusations against men.

When we ask you women to help us men get justice for these crimes, you REFUSE.

So, I am simply throwing your hatred right back in your face, you feminist scumbag.

And I am happy to see you get destroyed, just as you women are happy to see us men get destroyed.

Burn in hell, bitch.

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Just to show you how serious the crime of Parental Abduction is - here's the definition from a Government Study:


Definition of Parental Abduction

Parental abduction is defined as "the taking, retention, or concealment of a child or children by a parent, other family member, or their agent, in derogation of the custody rights, including visitation rights, of another parent or family member" (Girdner, 1994b, p. 1–11). Abductors may be other family members or their agents (e.g., girlfriend, boyfriend, grandparent, or even a private investigator), although in most cases the abductor is a child’s parent (Girdner, 1994c). Some State criminal statutes use the term "custodial interference"—rather than parental abduction, family abduction, or kidnapping—when referring to this crime and may include incidents in which children are detained or enticed away from the custodial parent. Custodial interference can also be defined to include interference with a court order of visitation or access.
Parental abduction is a crime in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.


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You American women are such HYPOCRITES.

When a WOMAN steal's a man's children from him, that is perfectly fine, and you women refuse to hold your fellow woman accountable for her criminal actions.

But when a MAN kidnap's his wife's children, it is suddenly a huge tragedy and you are all screaming for justice.

Do you man-hating feminist scumbag women even notice what HYPOCRITES you are?

I truly hope you burn in hell, you evil bitch.

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both parties are wrong and because of their own selfish desires. a kid pays the tab.

if this is the worst she has been though, she has had a great life.


hope things work out for the child, the adults are washed up, both of them. leaving on her part was the first mistake or trying to. life makes perfect sence to those doing what's best for others...

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My daughter never left her husband... he walked out on HER.

The time that he scared her with the butcher knife, she only wanted to come stay with me for a couple of days while he got his shit together.... she was really frightened, but didn't intend to end her marriage.

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What an idiot you and your daughter are. Your daughter CHOSE to have sex and have a baby with such a low life scumbag.

You retard American women fuck all the "bad boys" and "alpha males" cause it makes your vagina tingle. Then you whine and complain about the after result.

Your retarded daughter should have just found herself a NICE GUY to settle with. There are plenty of nice guy beta males in America. But no, you women dont want them, you only want the bad boys. Well, suffer the consequences, bitch.

I'm happy your whore daughter lost her child, now she knows EXACTLY how it feels to be a man. Welcome to real equality, bitch.

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You know, maybe you could call the school board and tell them they have employees that have kidnapped your grandchild. Call WSAZ, they would probably do a story. Call their church, put signs around town. Shame them. Wait till they cross into KY with the child, then call theFBI and report an interstate kidnapping. Call CPS and claim emotional abuse for witholding a child from its mother.

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Consider some of these ideas...

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No, don't consider those ideas. Those are actions that the Retard will use against your daughter if you do these things. 

I'm a family law attorney. If I was his attorney, I would use these things against your daughter to show why retard should have custody.

Typically, I see the type of case where the mom goes to court to get a restraining order and by the time dad gets his hearing and proves the grounds for a restraining order were a lie, the mom has already had custody for a while and will most likely end up with the house and the kids primarily. 

Then there's the rarer type of case where dad doesn't want to pay child support, so he makes up a lot of stuff and plays games in order to get custody. 

Here's the problem. I don't see any "conspiracy" or "government corruption." This is a rare type of case where the dad is aggressive, and has an aggressive attorney, and mom has no attorney or a bad one. 

If your daughter plays the game, she looks just as bad. If you or your daughter take any of the actions above, you look bad to the court. 

She needs to get an attorney. I don't think she's handling the case correctly. I would have handled it differently so far. 

She should find a family law specialist in her area and get some help before she loses custody. I know that so far the dad is the problem, but she is taking steps that could backfire. I've seen a mom lose custody to the child-molesting father because of the actions the mom took. She wasn't represented, either.

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You're a family law attorney? You are the SCUM OF THE EARTH. PLEASE, GO KILL YOURSELF and do all of us a favor. The world would be a FAR BETTER PLACE without SCUMBAG BASTARDS like you who make MONEY off of destroying people's families.

There is a very dark place in hell waiting for you, you monster.

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Just to show you how serious the crime of Parental Abduction is - here's the definition from a Government Study:


Definition of Parental Abduction

Parental abduction is defined as "the taking, retention, or concealment of a child or children by a parent, other family member, or their agent, in derogation of the custody rights, including visitation rights, of another parent or family member" (Girdner, 1994b, p. 1–11). Abductors may be other family members or their agents (e.g., girlfriend, boyfriend, grandparent, or even a private investigator), although in most cases the abductor is a child’s parent (Girdner, 1994c). Some State criminal statutes use the term "custodial interference"—rather than parental abduction, family abduction, or kidnapping—when referring to this crime and may include incidents in which children are detained or enticed away from the custodial parent. Custodial interference can also be defined to include interference with a court order of visitation or access.
Parental abduction is a crime in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.


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You American women are such HYPOCRITES.

When a WOMAN steal's a man's children from him, that is perfectly fine, and you women refuse to hold your fellow woman accountable for her criminal actions.

But when a MAN kidnap's his wife's children, it is suddenly a huge tragedy and you are all screaming for justice.

Do you man-hating feminist scumbag women even notice what HYPOCRITES you are?

I truly hope you burn in hell, you evil bitch.

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I think your anger is being mis-directed. I never said I hated men. I actually LOVE men. LOL I also want justice for anyone who is being "wronged". You must be gay... to be so full of hate towards women ???

Sorry about your attitude.

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And that is why you don't go and get knocked up by someone you barely know and aren't married to. When you have parents that can't make good decisions it's the child that suffers the most. Sounds like something you would see on Jerry Springer.

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My point exactly. Her dumbass daughter goes and fucks some alpha male low life thug type and gets pregnant. That is HER FAULT. She should have used her fucking brain and chosen a better man. Now the bitch is suffering the results.


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Just to show you how serious the crime of Parental Abduction is - here's the definition from a Government Study:


Definition of Parental Abduction

Parental abduction is defined as "the taking, retention, or concealment of a child or children by a parent, other family member, or their agent, in derogation of the custody rights, including visitation rights, of another parent or family member" (Girdner, 1994b, p. 1–11). Abductors may be other family members or their agents (e.g., girlfriend, boyfriend, grandparent, or even a private investigator), although in most cases the abductor is a child’s parent (Girdner, 1994c). Some State criminal statutes use the term "custodial interference"—rather than parental abduction, family abduction, or kidnapping—when referring to this crime and may include incidents in which children are detained or enticed away from the custodial parent. Custodial interference can also be defined to include interference with a court order of visitation or access.
Parental abduction is a crime in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.


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You American women are such HYPOCRITES.

When a WOMAN steal's a man's children from him, that is perfectly fine, and you women refuse to hold your fellow woman accountable for her criminal actions.

But when a MAN kidnap's his wife's children, it is suddenly a huge tragedy and you are all screaming for justice.

Do you man-hating feminist scumbag women even notice what HYPOCRITES you are?

I truly hope you burn in hell, you evil bitch.

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I think your anger is being mis-directed. I never said I hated men. I actually LOVE men. LOL I also want justice for anyone who is being "wronged". You must be gay... to be so full of hate towards women ???

Sorry about your attitude.

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LOL! Can't handle the truth, you dumb bitch?

Your daughter is a low life scumbag slut and you are a man-hating feminist piece of shit.

You should both go fucking kill yourselves, the world would be so much better without you.

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Actually, it's YOUR FAULT for raising a daughter who turned out to be a slut and who chose a "bad boy" alpha male type to have a child with.

You feminists act surprised that your daughters grow up to be sluts?

Tens of millions of American MEN have had their children kidnapped from them by their vicious ex-wives. Where is YOUR PROTEST for them? No, you hate men and only care about women.

You are the scum of the earth, bitch.

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Retard is probly schitzophrenic, parents probly sheltering and hiding the fact. If he was holding a butcher knife for no reason? Yet and get a court ordered psychological exam, also If your grandson Even hints at abuse, keep him and dont hesitate to file a police report.

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Actually, it is a GOOD THING that the husband has taken the child away from your daughter. Your daughter is too irresponsible to raise the child properly anyway.

At least now the child has a shot at a good life. If the child was raised by your slut single mother daughter, the child would just grow up to be another low life scumbag ghetto thug type.

IT IS A GOOD THING THAT THE FATHER GOT CUSTODY. I PRAY TO GOD THAT HE KEEPS IT AND KEEPS YOUR PSYCHOPATHIC DAUGHTER AWAY FROM THE CHILD.

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Retard is probly schitzophrenic, parents probly sheltering and hiding the fact. If he was holding a butcher knife for no reason? Yet and get a court ordered psychological exam, also If your grandson Even hints at abuse, keep him and dont hesitate to file a police report.

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No, the HUSBAND probably just got sick of dealing with the feminist bullshit of his slut whore ex-wife.

By the way, there is no such thing as schizophrenia or mental illness. [link to antipsychiatry.org

Once again, it is a GOOD THING that the husband got custody and is keeping his feminist ex-wife away from the child. I hope to God that he can keep custody and not let his evil feminist slut ex wife steal the child from him.

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LOL! So if a man speaks the truth about how evil American women are, and about how evil feminism is, he is now a "shill".

Fuck you, bitch.

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Retard is probly schitzophrenic, parents probly sheltering and hiding the fact. If he was holding a butcher knife for no reason? Yet and get a court ordered psychological exam, also If your grandson Even hints at abuse, keep him and dont hesitate to file a police report.

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No, the HUSBAND probably just got sick of dealing with the feminist bullshit of his slut whore ex-wife.

By the way, there is no such thing as schizophrenia or mental illness. [link to antipsychiatry.org

Once again, it is a GOOD THING that the husband got custody and is keeping his feminist ex-wife away from the child. I hope to God that he can keep custody and not let his evil feminist slut ex wife steal the child from him.

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I'm sorry you don't know how to read, or can't comprehend what you do read. Maybe you should get your facts straight and try again. LOL

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LOL! So if a man speaks the truth about how evil American women are, and about how evil feminism is, he is now a "shill".

Fuck you, bitch.

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Little boy, you've got problems, but this thread isn't the place. There ARE problems in family court. Men DO get the shaft, but your posts aren't winning ANYONE over to your side of the arguement. If you can't hold a decent conversation, leave the thread. Anymore, BS from you and I WILL report your abusive language. Call me another name.

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Actually, it's YOUR FAULT for raising a daughter who turned out to be a slut and who chose a "bad boy" alpha male type to have a child with.

You feminists act surprised that your daughters grow up to be sluts?

Tens of millions of American MEN have had their children kidnapped from them by their vicious ex-wives. Where is YOUR PROTEST for them? No, you hate men and only care about women.

You are the scum of the earth, bitch.

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Interesting how the women here refuse to answer my questions.

You women won't help us men when our children get kidnapped. Why should we help you women?

Get used to it, ladies. Men are now just projecting back on you YOUR OWN hatred that you feminists have spewed against men for the past 50 years.

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I was sooooo hoping that someone would tell me what might happen to me if I post this letter with the real names in it, on my blog or publish it in a newspaper.

I just want some help for my daughter.

I'm so worried about her. I don't know how she's managed to handle this for so long - she's sure made out of stronger stuff than I am. But I think she's hit her limit.

PLEASE.... any advice or suggestions that might help her ?

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Turn truly to God.Be fully with God and ask Him to get your child back and He will listen.

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LOL! So if a man speaks the truth about how evil American women are, and about how evil feminism is, he is now a "shill".

Fuck you, bitch.

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Little boy, you've got problems, but this thread isn't the place. There ARE problems in family court. Men DO get the shaft, but your posts aren't winning ANYONE over to your side of the arguement. If you can't hold a decent conversation, leave the thread. Anymore, BS from you and I WILL report your abusive language. Call me another name.

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THIS is exactly what I am talking about.

So if a MAN requests women to help HIM get his children back from his ex-wife, he is a "little man" and "has problems".

ANd then you feminist bitches act surprised when men refuse to help you and just reflect YOUR OWN HATRED back onto you?

You American women are sick people. 25 percent of American women take psychiatric drugs for mental disorders.

You American women are the most mentally sick people on this planet. Funny how you accuse others of that. Projecting your own madness onto others, perhaps?

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Good night everyone and thank you so much for all the good advice and words of encouragement.

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Actually, it's YOUR FAULT for raising a daughter who turned out to be a slut and who chose a "bad boy" alpha male type to have a child with.

You feminists act surprised that your daughters grow up to be sluts?

Tens of millions of American MEN have had their children kidnapped from them by their vicious ex-wives. Where is YOUR PROTEST for them? No, you hate men and only care about women.

You are the scum of the earth, bitch.

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Interesting how the women here refuse to answer my questions.

You women won't help us men when our children get kidnapped. Why should we help you women?

Get used to it, ladies. Men are now just projecting back on you YOUR OWN hatred that you feminists have spewed against men for the past 50 years.

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Why don't YOU drop the attitude? Have YOUR children been kidnapped? Talk to us like a human being and maybe someone can help. If not, shut up and go away. The grown ups are talking.

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Good night everyone and thank you so much for all the good advice and words of encouragement.

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Answer my question, you dumb bitch.

You women REFUSE to help men when men request help to get their children back from their ex-wife who has kidnapped them.

Why then should any men help you? Tens of millions of American men have had their children kidnapped by their ex-wives.

Where was the mass protest by you women about this? NONE.

Remember, you American women are "big strong and independent" and "don't need a man". LOL!!!! What a hypocrite you are, dumb bitch.

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02/05/2013 03:33 AM
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Re: Desperately in need of Justice !! A young mother's unhappy story....

Actually, it's YOUR FAULT for raising a daughter who turned out to be a slut and who chose a "bad boy" alpha male type to have a child with.

You feminists act surprised that your daughters grow up to be sluts?

Tens of millions of American MEN have had their children kidnapped from them by their vicious ex-wives. Where is YOUR PROTEST for them? No, you hate men and only care about women.

You are the scum of the earth, bitch.

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Interesting how the women here refuse to answer my questions.

You women won't help us men when our children get kidnapped. Why should we help you women?

Get used to it, ladies. Men are now just projecting back on you YOUR OWN hatred that you feminists have spewed against men for the past 50 years.

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Why don't YOU drop the attitude? Have YOUR children been kidnapped? Talk to us like a human being and maybe someone can help. If not, shut up and go away. The grown ups are talking.

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Answer my question, you dumb bitch.

You women REFUSE to help men when men request help to get their children back from their ex-wife who has kidnapped them.

Why then should any men help you? Tens of millions of American men have had their children kidnapped by their ex-wives.

Where was the mass protest by you women about this? NONE.

Remember, you American women are "big strong and independent" and "don't need a man". LOL!!!! What a hypocrite you are, dumb bitch.

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02/05/2013 03:41 AM
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Re: Desperately in need of Justice !! A young mother's unhappy story....

Peter Nolan, the founder of the website Crimes Against Fathers, has been asking women for FIVE YEARS to help him prosecute his ex-wife in a common law court, for the crimes she committed against him, one of which was kidnapping his former children from him and refusing to give him any contact or custody.

Know how many women have decided to help him? ZERO.

He asked over 10,000 women, and ZERO helped him.

And then you evil fucking bitches act surprised when we men refuse to help YOU when the husband kidnaps the children from you?

THIS IS INSTANT KARMA. You bitches kidnap tens of millions of men's children from them, and now the same thing is happening to you. ENJOY REAL EQUALITY, BITCH.



If you want to actually be educated to the truth about feminism and how the governments have used feminism to enslave men, as well as the solution to how to become free from this tyranny? I suggest you download and read Peter Nolan's two free ebooks he wrote, they are only about 100 pages each:

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