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 11/12/2013 10:54 AM
 
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David Davies - Man hater, IgnorMANUS, all round repulsive man

This is his web site: http://www.david-daviesmp.co.uk/

This is his email address: david.davies.mp@parliament.uk


This is what a man hater looks like.



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 11/12/2013 11:00 AM
 


Here is what he had to say:

"Feckless fathers should be put in chains and made to work to pay for the upbringing of their children, a Tory MP declared today." 

But what about feckless mothers? Should they be put in chains and make to work to pay for the upbringing of their children?

Indeed? This man hater has been asked to present his position on equality of women before the law to men and he has remained silent on this matter. 

So while he remains silent about women committing crimes against men how rails loudly and gets himself in to the media about PUTTING MEN IN CHAINS!!!

What a despicable man. I really hope one of his MALE CONSTITUENTS simply goes and KILLS THIS MAN HATER.  Because that is what he deserves. He is the enemy of men. He wants to PUT MEN IN CHAINS? Well maybe some man will just do the world a favour and put a bullet in this mans brain, or slice his neck from ear to ear for being such a man hater.

Hating on men can be a very dangerous past-time. 

If a man is going to demand MEN are put in chains to pay for their children while NOT demanding WOMEN are put in chains to pay for their children then he can have no complaints if some man takes exception and KILLS HIM for his obvious man hatred.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

Put feckless fathers in chains and make them pay for their abandoned children, says Tory MP David Davies

  • Monmouth MP says men who father children should pay for upbringing
  • He tells the Commons the state should not be left to pick up the bill
  • Also condemns over-generous benefits which pay for 'teenage love nests'
  • He says he used to meet his teenage girlfriend 'on a park bench'

By MATT CHORLEY, MAILONLINE POLITICAL EDITOR

PUBLISHED: 17:13 GMT, 12 November 2013 | UPDATED: 17:38 GMT, 12 November 2013


Feckless fathers should be put in chains and made to work to pay for the upbringing of their children, a Tory MP declared today.

Monmouth MP David TC Davies said it was ‘absolutely outrageous’ that young men get women pregnant and then ‘disappear’, leaving them to a life on benefits.

And he complained that benefits remain far too generous in many circumstances by allowing a 17-year-old couple to set up in a ‘teenage love nest’ at the state’s expense.

Outspoken: Tory MP David Davies said feckless fathers should be locked in chains and made to work to pay for the children they abandoned

Mr Davies’ outspoken suggestion came during a debate in the Commons on benefits changes.

Labour heavily criticised moves to reduce benefits for people with rooms they do not need, describing it as a ‘bedroom tax’.

The Tories insist the end of the spare room subsidy is fair and necessary to curb the nation’s welfare budget.

 

But during increasingly heated exchanges, Mr Davies said it was not the role of the state to provide handouts to bring up children abandoned by their fathers.

He said: ‘I have absolutely no hesitation in talking about feckless fathers.’

'Get hold of some of these feckless fathers, drag them off, make them work, put them in chains if necessary'

Tory MP David Davies

Mr Davies said he had met a woman bringing up her four grandchildren, whose own daughter was set to lose out on housing as she was not the children’s main carer. 

While he felt sorry for everyone involved, the state is not there to provide big properties for families with large numbers of youngsters.

He told MPs: ‘Those children have been brought into the world by a group of different males and those males have then disappeared and left those two ladies to try and bring them up themselves.

‘I think it is absolutely outrageous that so many young men in our society feel they can go out, get women pregnant, allow them to have children, make them bring them up by themselves very often on benefits and then just disappear.

TORY MP BEST KNOWN FOR NOT BEING A LEADERSHIP CHALLENGER

Anger: Mr Davies said it was wrong that benefits paid for a 'teenage love nest'

David Davies is probably best known for not being David Davis.

The Welsh politician is frequently confused with his near-namesake (inset), who lost out to David Cameron for the Tory leadership in 2005.

As a result he uses his middle initials TC in Parliament, earning the nickname ‘Top Cat’.

Mr Davies, the Monmouth MP, has never reached the Tory frontline, at odds with the leadership on many issues.

David Davis, who is definitely not Davies TC Davies

The fluent Welsh-speaking was born in London and grew up in Newport, working for British Steel and the Territorial Army before travelling around Australia where he picked tobacco and ran a nightclub.

He ran a campaign against the Welsh Assembly being set up, but then stood for election to it and became the only Tory to win a constituency seat.

The Special Constable was elected as MP for Monmouth in 2005, and has called for Britain to leave the EU, expressed doubts about climate change and argued people who come to Britain should learn English and be fit to work.

In 2010 he accused the Labour party of trying to smear him as a ‘Nazi’.

Last year he insisted he is not homophobic – because he once fought a gay boxer with the nickname the Pink Pounder.

He had claimed that parents hoped for heterosexual children because they wanted grandchildren.

‘It is utterly shocking and I hope that the ministers will take note of this and get hold of some of these feckless fathers, drag them off, make them work, put them in chains if necessary, make them work and make them pay back society for the cost of bringing up the children they chose to bring into this world.’

He said he met several benefits claimants after being contacted by the BBC for a programme on the welfare stated.

‘I also met a young couple, a teenage couple, 17 years old, neither of whom had ever worked in their lives, they were in a two or a one-bedroom flat and were being expected to suffer some inconvenience, perhaps move into a studio flat,’ Mr Davies said.

‘And again I say to the ministers on my front-bench, you are being far too generous in many instances.

‘Why should the state be paying for two people to set up in, frankly, a teenage love nest?

‘When I was 17 years old, if I wanted to see my girlfriend at the age of 17, I would go and see her on a park bench in Newport.

‘Why is the Government paying for them to have a flat all by themselves at all, never-mind whether it’s one-bedroom or two-bedroom?’

He revealed he had told the man to get a job or move to where he could find employment, and was criticised as a Christian for the hardship people face.

He replied: ‘I read my bible, I don’t see anywhere in the bible where it says 17 year olds should be given a flat but I see plenty of examples of people who have had to move for a better way of life, whether it was Abraham going off to the Promised Land or Moses or the disciples who toured all over Europe’. They all moved.’ 

Talking about opportunities in and around Victoria railway station in London, he said: 'In Victoria station, which is a prime bit of expensive real estate, you’ve got your Boots, your Costa Coffee and your Starbucks.

'There’s actually an office there which is recruiting people to go and work for Pret A Manger. So I went in there the other day, last week, there were 100 vacancies in Pret A Manger in central London.

'People were waiting to take people on. 

'Young people with an attitude with an ability to go out and do a bit of work can find a job no problem whatsoever and I don’t think we should be supporting them in the way we are.'



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 11/12/2013 11:08 AM
 
 Modified By host  on 11/12/2013 12:11:29 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Nolan [mailto:peter@peternolan.com]
Sent: 12 November 2013 21:07
To: 'david.davies.mp@parliament.uk'
Subject: Welcome to CAF

David,

Welcome to CAF you disgusting man hating sexist, discriminatory, bigot.

I have directly asked you NUMEROUS TIMES to state your position on women being held equal before the law to men.

You are too gutless to make a statement about that.

But here you are talking about putting men chains.

I sincerely hope of your MALE CONSTITUENTS KILLS YOU.

I really do.

HOW DARE YOU PROMOTE SLAVERY OF MEN while not at the same time promoting SLAVERY OF WOMEN?!

Really…just how DARE YOU?

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/u...

 

Best Regards

Peter Nolan
Founder
Crimes Against Fathers 

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 11/14/2013 2:14 PM
 
I actually got a reply...likely from his secretary but that is better than nothing.

-----Original Message-----
From: DAVIES, David [mailto:david.davies.mp@parliament.uk]
Sent: 14 November 2013 16:02
To: peter@peternolan.com
Subject: RE: Welcome to CAF


Dear Mr Nolan,

 

Thank you very much for getting in contact with me about comments I made during the debate on the Spare  Room Subsidy on Tuesday. I have been inundated by many emails on this matter, so please excuse the standard nature of this email, as I am unable to respond to every single email personally.

 

I understand that you disagreed with the comments I made on feckless fathers. I want to make it clear that I was speaking about those fathers who do not want to see their children and make no attempts to support their children and I made this clear in my speech.

I was not referring to fathers who want to be part of their children’s lives and are often prevented from doing so by family court decisions. I made this exact point in an interview with Vanessa Feltz on BBC London 94.9 today.  I have also signed an EDM in support of fathers in this situation, which I include a link to herehttp://www.parliament.uk/edm/2013-14/210 , as I believe in these circumstances it should be made easier for fathers to see their children. 

 

I acknowledge that in the way my comments were reported in the media this may not have been made clear.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

David Davies MP

Member for Monmouth 

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 11/14/2013 2:15 PM
 
So I sent him this reply.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Nolan [mailto:peter@peternolan.com]
Sent: 15 November 2013 00:13
To: 'DAVIES, David'
Subject: RE: Welcome to CAF


Hello David,

Thank you for your return email. It is much appreciated.

You very likely have not bothered to find out who I am and what I have been up to these last 6 years with respect to the criminality of the various governments. You are on my mailing list for MPs in the UK and I have sent you 5 emails to which you and all your colleagues chose not to respond.

Here is the link.

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/u...

So I am glad I have your attention, or at least the attention of you secretary if that is who sent the email below.

I want to address this specific comment in your email.

“I understand that you disagreed with the comments I made on feckless fathers. I want to make it clear that I was speaking about those fathers who do not want to see their children and make no attempts to support their children and I made this clear in my speech. ”

You see David. I am one of those “feckless fathers” that you talk about. I absolutely refused to pay one cent in alimony or child support. I disowned my former children and I will have absolutely nothing to do with them ever again. So I am one of the men you claimed you wanted to “put in chains”.

So let me tell you something. And I really do recommend you listen up because your life and the life of your wife and children might depend on it.

When I was threatened with incarceration by an Irish Family court judge for refusing to PAY EXTORTION MONEY which is what child support and alimony really is I told him that if he did so I would KILL HIM. And I meant it. I will kill any man who violates my right to freedom. And other men are starting to think in similar ways.

I have offered the entire membership of the Irish Parliament to come to the table to talk about the CRIMINALITY of the family courts. They have refused to remedy the crimes I have been a victim of for a period of nearly 6 years now. So, as a last resort, I claimed into existence a state of WAR on the land known as Ireland.

Right now, today, in Ireland it is lawful to walk up to an MP and put a gun in his mouth and blow his head clean off. Absolutely lawful. Same for his wife and children.

Any man who does so will be accorded the stature of a war hero and he will be released from any subsequent incarceration as a prisoner of war.

Should men in the UK wish to do the same? I will claim into existence a state of war making it lawful to KILL YOU David, and your wife, and your children, and your mother and father too.

Now, do you see why it might be time to talk? Because we are fed up with your stonewalling silence.  I am quite willing to claim into existence states of WAR so as to get your attention and bring you politicians to the table to talk. If men have to KILL some of your wives and children to do that? So what? You politicians do not care about us fathers. Why should we care about your wives and children?

Now. I have been severely politically persecuted in both Ireland and Australia for exposing the criminality of the guvments in these lands.

I have presented my claim of right to live, work and travel on the lands of England and Wales and you and your colleagues are not willing to ensure that I will have the protection of your Magna Carta on your land.

You politicians seem to take great pains to persecute those of us who point out your crimes.

Now. You label me a “feckless father” for standing up for my rights and refusing to be criminally victimized by my ex wife and her criminal associates in the family law courts in Australia and Ireland. You called for men like me to be “put in chains” publicly.

I thought you politicians where supposed to be there to SECURE OUR RIGHTS David. NOT PUT US IN CHAINS.

Now. You might like to correspond with me on these points or you might wish to ignore me. But I can assure you of this. Many men are very angry that their children were kidnapped and abused like mine were. Many men are very angry that their houses were stolen, their lives destroyed. I am making it VERY CLEAR to them that the people that they should take their anger out on are the wives, children, parents, brothers and sisters of you politicians.

I am making it very clear to them that if they want to claim into existence a state of war that I will do so in my own name in the public and that will mean we will retrieve any man from any incarceration who commits acts of war against named enemy combatants.

And if you do not like that? May I remind you that you and your colleagues just voted as to whether to declare war on Syria. I asked you MPs from whence you derived that right and not one of you could answer me. Since you claimed the right to declare war on innocent people who never harmed you in a far distant land under the law “do unto others” all you MPs have agreed that those you have criminally victimized have the right to declare war on YOU.

Now. Let me tell you this. Every man has the right to defend his children with force, up to and including deadly force. And those men are being told to prepare themselves to direct that deadly force at you, your wife, your children, your mother and father.

That might be a very good reason for your politicians to now come to the table to talk. Because you do not have the resources to defend your wives and children from angry men in your society. There is no way in the world to protect them other than to come to the table and talk in the full view of those angry men.

Well? Are you ready to talk yet? Or do we need to claim into existence a state of war as is the case in Ireland?

 

Best Regards

Peter Nolan
Founder
Crimes Against Fathers 

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